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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:06 am 
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Hey guys came across this program during to exporting Forza Horizon 3 models for the Australian cars since I am from there, however I like to do everything under Linux rather then Windows (only for gaming) and though would share if anyone else has linux has main OS or so, I've manage to get the current version of 3DSimED working on it with Crossover program (haven't manage to get vanilla Wine to work yet).

Does have a few issues so it ain't working 100%, but I can import and export a model, more UI issue that make the program crash.

http://imgur.com/jv9AalS[/url] - Full Resolution Version here (2560x1440p)

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Mainly just need to turn off Load DX9 Shaders Programs under Display (blue X logo) with also Hardware Mouse XYZ, once those are off it works, but again not 100%.

Hope this is the right place to put this.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:42 am 
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That's impressive by Crossover, thanks for the interesting post.

Cheers

Dave N.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:14 pm 
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I'm a regular 3DSimED user on Linux too. However, I had a long time off from modding and meanwhile got a new PC and switched the Linux OS (now I use Linux Mint).
So after a long time I fired up 3DSimED on Linux again and failed using my default/vanilla WINE 2.22 installation. Then I tried PlayOnLinux (4.2.12) and created a new WINE virtual drive for 3DSimED with WINE 2.22 64bit. 3DSimED launched without any error message and was ready to use.

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All basic functions seem working, so import, export and manipulating the models should work without issues. But I don't know how stable 3DSimED will be during productive use (I think an update to this post will be needed someday later). During my short test some minor issues popped up though:
  • Right-click menus close when hovering over expending entries
  • Help is not working (I think something for the windows help needs to be installed in WINE)

Last but not least I do have two question @Dave: What dependencies does 3DSimED have, so what DLL or programs could I install in WINE to improve the stability and enable missing features of 3DSimED? Am I able to share the license between my Windows and my Linux install or do I have to get a second license then?

Thank you,
Sven


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:23 am 
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Hi Sven

I'm impressed by the great job WINE is achieving, to get a DirectX app working so well is something.

You can download a program called Dependency Walker which will list all the calls to all the DLLs but the list will be very long and I don't think that list would help me or you to correct the problems you are having.
Even looking at the code I'm not sure what is causing the right-button problem but I will keep looking.

As for the help you are correct 3DSimED uses Microsoft Compiled HTML Help, and I would have thought it would work on WINE.

The licensing allows two computers so you're fine there.

Cheers!

Dave N.


FuNK! wrote:
I'm a regular 3DSimED user on Linux too. However, I had a long time off from modding and meanwhile got a new PC and switched the Linux OS (now I use Linux Mint).
So after a long time I fired up 3DSimED on Linux again and failed using my default/vanilla WINE 2.22 installation. Then I tried PlayOnLinux (4.2.12) and created a new WINE virtual drive for 3DSimED with WINE 2.22 64bit. 3DSimED launched without any error message and was ready to use.


All basic functions seem working, so import, export and manipulating the models should work without issues. But I don't know how stable 3DSimED will be during productive use (I think an update to this post will be needed someday later). During my short test some minor issues popped up though:
  • Right-click menus close when hovering over expending entries
  • Help is not working (I think something for the windows help needs to be installed in WINE)

Last but not least I do have two question @Dave: What dependencies does 3DSimED have, so what DLL or programs could I install in WINE to improve the stability and enable missing features of 3DSimED? Am I able to share the license between my Windows and my Linux install or do I have to get a second license then?

Thank you,
Sven


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:28 am 
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Thank you Dave!

The WINE project really made great steps in the recent past but came a long way. The rebuild of dx9 and dx11 really advanced in the last two years and so many games work out of the box already. Of course they still have to close a wide gap to a Windows OS performance. But some games ported to Linux which are using WINE as a base reached pretty good and comparable performance already. Anyway, one of my personal next adventures will be installing Steam and testing rF2 and AC via WINE :cooler:

Back to topic. Well, I will try Dependency Walker and report. We'll see were this ends :hmmm: I guess there is just some very obvious thing missing...like vcredist version X or something :lol:
The Windows Help system should work, yes. But I don't think it's implemented in a false-proof manner. So I will try installing the official files and have a look. Though, I think I would be fine without a working help in Linux anyway!

OK, I will then have to check if I can activate 3DSimED in Linux (I'm not sure if I have activated it on a second machine before :embarrass: )

Maybe in a week or so I'll post an update :nana:

Dave Noonan wrote:
Hi Sven

I'm impressed by the great job WINE is achieving, to get a DirectX app working so well is something.

You can download a program called Dependency Walker which will list all the calls to all the DLLs but the list will be very long and I don't think that list would help me or you to correct the problems you are having.
Even looking at the code I'm not sure what is causing the right-button problem but I will keep looking.

As for the help you are correct 3DSimED uses Microsoft Compiled HTML Help, and I would have thought it would work on WINE.

The licensing allows two computers so you're fine there.

Cheers!

Dave N.


FuNK! wrote:
I'm a regular 3DSimED user on Linux too. However, I had a long time off from modding and meanwhile got a new PC and switched the Linux OS (now I use Linux Mint).
So after a long time I fired up 3DSimED on Linux again and failed using my default/vanilla WINE 2.22 installation. Then I tried PlayOnLinux (4.2.12) and created a new WINE virtual drive for 3DSimED with WINE 2.22 64bit. 3DSimED launched without any error message and was ready to use.


All basic functions seem working, so import, export and manipulating the models should work without issues. But I don't know how stable 3DSimED will be during productive use (I think an update to this post will be needed someday later). During my short test some minor issues popped up though:
  • Right-click menus close when hovering over expending entries
  • Help is not working (I think something for the windows help needs to be installed in WINE)

Last but not least I do have two question @Dave: What dependencies does 3DSimED have, so what DLL or programs could I install in WINE to improve the stability and enable missing features of 3DSimED? Am I able to share the license between my Windows and my Linux install or do I have to get a second license then?

Thank you,
Sven


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