You must have missed this brief part of the post.

Yes. We will be releasing base setups for the mod. As with all base setups they will not be the fastest but should be a good starting point until you get comfortable with the garage.

Brian

Looks like a yes ....



Original Posting : http://www.thepits.us/board/viewtopic.php?t=8528


PS: #$%& my slow typing !!

Brian's point RE learning to drive these things before playing in the garage probably cannot be emphasized enough.  It is very, very difficult to just sit down in one of these and go fast for a whole fuel run, regardless of what setup you have underneath the car.

Deepest apologies. I DID miss the part mentioning the availability of the base sets. Great news!

Once again, you guys don't fail!

It's all good there are a few of us on the project that have been pushing for setups. I don't like going to the garage for my cars, goodness knows what horrid things I would do to the cars without a little help.  :oops:

So basically you're saying we should totally forget everything we learned in how to setup a car (mechanically) in NR2003.  And that we should relearn how a real world cup car is setup (aerodynamically) in TPSCC?

Thanks Brian for all your hard work.   This is the one rFactor mod I've been looking forward to the most.  Hopefully it will lead to bigger and better things for you in the future.  :wink:

That includes for how you drive the cars as well.  One of our first tests with the updated physics at Bristol had a lot of people struggling to get the cars slowed down entering the corners.  These cars have a realistic feeling of weight, because they are realistically weighted.  So you can't just slam on the brakes on turn entry at a track like bristol, or you do not have enough room to slow the car down.  Another thing to note is that how you treat your tires will make a big difference as well.  For instance, if I was running a 25 lap race at Atlanta, and I spin out on lap 10, sure I could make it the rest of the way on fuel, but having scrubbed all the rubber off the tires, I am gunna be slow.

Little things like that are gunna make the difference in TPSCC, you just gotta be open to learning to adjust your driving style and setup style a bit.

I just want to say that, yes, these cars drive totally different than the cars in Nascar 2003.  When I started testing TPSCC I thought, wow, am I ever going to get the hang of these things.  Then Brian came out with some base setups and I learned a little more about the cars and now I am able to get the cars to do basicly what I want them to do.  As Brian, said, there will be basic setups included with TPSCC.  Learn to drive these setups, then read and re-read what Brian has said about setting up the cars.  Then go to the garage and start working on your own setups  This isn't NR2003 and it won't feel anything like NR2003.  This is the real thing.  I think most everyone who takes the time to learn how to drive and setup these cars are in for a real treat.  I think this is one great mod.

I totally agree with what Oldasdirt posted. It takes some getting used to but once you get the hang of it these cars drive great.

I am sure glad I stuck with learning everything I could about BBSS setups

Just curious does the TPSCC cars make use of a rear sway bar?

Also on a side note I have also noticed that it will use a packer for coil binding. Just curious as to why and why only the right front? Did you guys not able to find good numbers for the suspention in the HDV to have coil bining sets without the packer?

Just curious is all.

Regards,
Robert A. Roop J.r
GrafixWerks Inc.

During that test I was driving the car like I used to with NR03.  Brake late, and then right back on the gas.  My end result was it looked like I was driving Darlington.  I was going in, then right to the top of the track, usually with the LF locked up.  Not to mention in 5 laps I had the RR reading 300 degrees.  I remembered a few years ago Rusty Wallace telling a reporter how he drove Bristol.  He said he would let off just after the S/F line.  So I started doing that and before I knew it the car was sticking to the bottom of the track and the right side tires weren't burning up.

So keep this all in mind when first driving this mod.  Its going to take a while to get used to, especially the people coming right from NR03.  Before I started BETA testing last summer I was playing NR03 alot, it took some time and understanding before I could really understand and enjoy this mod.

Yes the rear sway bar is there, but on most setups its detached.  Brian can comment better on the packers than I can.

To all you guys that have been driving and testing this sim.  Would you please please please stop talking about it.  My heart can only beat so fast before it explodes!

Sincerely,

"soon" and "real soon" just aint "soon" enough...

Looks great btw

SVO