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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:09 pm 
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It's been so long since I've played around with N2k3 physics that I don't remember this stuff. I apologize if this isnt in the right section as well, I wasnt sure where to put this post. Here's my question:

If a track does not have support (i.e. grip, tire temp/wear values etc) for PTA physics for example, like say on a short track, does it use the original track ini settings? or would it make that track not raceable in that mod? I have an idea in mind but before I get too far into this I want to find out if I would have to go in and add in all the values myself for all of the tracks I want to run?

Warning!!!: more questions may follow depending on answer(s) given :crackup:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:28 pm 
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i belive the answer is yes, however i'm not 100% (which is funny seing as i make tracks lol)

Steve may know 4 sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:00 pm 
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If there is not a specific series section in the track.ini, i.e. <[ track_(mod/series) ]>, then, when using that mod/series, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ track ]>. Likewise, if there is not a specific series section in the track.ini for the ai, <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ ai_track ]>. Any individual parameter that is in <[ track ]> (or <[ ai_track ]>) but not in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> (or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>), the exe will use that cup parameter. If you don't want that specific cup value applied to a mod/series, you must have that parameter listed in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]> (with an appropiate mod/series value).
The same applies to the fast setup. If a mod/series specific fast setup is not available, the cup setup (fast.cup.sim) will be used.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:09 pm 
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fortine_oo wrote:
If there is not a specific series section in the track.ini, i.e. <[ track_(mod/series) ]>, then, when using that mod/series, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ track ]>. Likewise, if there is not a specific series section in the track.ini for the ai, <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ ai_track ]>. Any individual parameter that is in <[ track ]> (or <[ ai_track ]>) but not in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> (or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>), the exe will use that cup parameter. If you don't want that specific cup value applied to a mod/series, you must have that parameter listed in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]> (with an appropiate mod/series value).
The same applies to the fast setup. If a mod/series specific fast setup is not available, the cup setup (fast.cup.sim) will be used.



Ok gotcha! It's slowly coming back to me now. lol and I'm glad you mentioned about the ai values because I would have forgotten all about that as well. I may have bitten off more than I can chew with this idea, maybe not though. Hopefully this will work out as planned.

Thanks for the help.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:01 am 
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fortine_oo wrote:
If there is not a specific series section in the track.ini, i.e. <[ track_(mod/series) ]>, then, when using that mod/series, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ track ]>. Likewise, if there is not a specific series section in the track.ini for the ai, <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ ai_track ]>. Any individual parameter that is in <[ track ]> (or <[ ai_track ]>) but not in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> (or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>), the exe will use that cup parameter. If you don't want that specific cup value applied to a mod/series, you must have that parameter listed in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]> (with an appropiate mod/series value).
The same applies to the fast setup. If a mod/series specific fast setup is not available, the cup setup (fast.cup.sim) will be used.

Did you mean with mod/series:
1. The name of the mod/series
2. The name of the physics, e.g. CUP, GNS, CTS, PTA

Cos the way you described it, sounds like you can make different settings for each mod out there.
And i think that isnt possible.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:26 pm 
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King D.A. wrote:
fortine_oo wrote:
If there is not a specific series section in the track.ini, i.e. <[ track_(mod/series) ]>, then, when using that mod/series, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ track ]>. Likewise, if there is not a specific series section in the track.ini for the ai, <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>, the exe will use the cup parameters in <[ ai_track ]>. Any individual parameter that is in <[ track ]> (or <[ ai_track ]>) but not in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> (or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]>), the exe will use that cup parameter. If you don't want that specific cup value applied to a mod/series, you must have that parameter listed in <[ track_(mod/series) ]> or <[ ai_track_(mod/series) ]> (with an appropiate mod/series value).
The same applies to the fast setup. If a mod/series specific fast setup is not available, the cup setup (fast.cup.sim) will be used.

Did you mean with mod/series:
1. The name of the mod/series
2. The name of the physics, e.g. CUP, GNS, CTS, PTA

Cos the way you described it, sounds like you can make different settings for each mod out there.
And i think that isnt possible.



#1 if you are using a mod/series that identifies itself as such. e.g. cup, bgn, cts, pta, gtp (or in the case of so-called "illegal" mods).
#2 if you are using a mod that associates itself with a specific exe. e.g. TPTCC (pta), OWR07 (pta), and others that use bgn and cts.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:27 pm 
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King D.A. wrote:

Did you mean with mod/series:
1. The name of the mod/series
2. The name of the physics, e.g. CUP, GNS, CTS, PTA

Cos the way you described it, sounds like you can make different settings for each mod out there.
And i think that isnt possible.



No I understood what he was saying. I didnt read it as you can have different settings for all the mods. You can only have settings for the 4 physics of the game, and if the mod you are running doesn't have specific values entered into the track ini file, it will use the default settings which are for cup physics. (at least they should be for cup)

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