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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:15 pm 
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Hi folks,

I'm taking a shot in the dark here.

I have two old 686 machines that I've put back online with Voodoo 5500 gfx cards, Win98, etc. (dang, it wasn't easy finding IDE cables that would wrap all the way around those big cards!!). I backed up a ton of N3 stuff on CDs years ago; cars/trucks, add-on tracks, etc. I have over 100 add-on tracks (short, speedway, road) in folders and can use the old tracktoy batch file to swap them out. But, in a massively bonehead move, :doh: I apparently did not save my all.cal file where all these tracks were listed.

Does anyone have their old N3 stuff backed up and might have some big all.cal files, or even some season calendars where you may have run add-on tracks?

I'm retired now and have time to start typing, but that is an undertaking I do not look forward to. Any help would be appreciated.

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oh yeah........ and btw - one of these W98 machines was my 2k3 sandbox machine (sandbox liked W98 a lot better), so I had 2k3 installed on it to make it easier to grab and open tracks for parts, but I had a G-force 4200 gfx card in it. Now, this V5 may have 64 megs of memory, but I fired up 2k3 just to see what it did............ it took forever to load the track, and sitting in pits, I was getting a whopping 2.76 fps!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:12 pm 
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This all.cal came from a zip file modified 4/13/2000
Code:
SNAME Winston_Cup
 1  2 21 0 0 ROCKING Dura-Lube/Big_Kmart_400 Dura-Lube/Big_Kmart_400 393 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 2  3  7 0 0 LASVEGAS Las_Vegas_400 Las_Vegas_400 267 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 3  3 14 0 0 ATLANTA Cracker_Barrel_500 Cracker_Barrel_500 325 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 4  3 21 0 0 DARLINGT TranSouth_Financial_400 TranSouth_Financial_400 293 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 5  3 28 0 0 TEXAS PRIMESTAR_500 PRIMESTAR_500 334 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 6  4 11 0 0 BRISTOL Food_City_500 Food_City_500 500 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 7  4 18 0 0 MRTNSVIL Goody's_Body_Pain_500 Goody's_Body_Pain_500 500 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 8  4 25 0 0 TALADEGA Diehard_500 Diehard_500 188 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 9  5  2 0 0 CALIF California_500_Presented_by_NAPA California_500_Presented_by_NAPA 250 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
10  5 15 0 1 NRICHMON Richmond_400 Richmond_400 400 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
11  5 30 0 1 NCHRLTTE Coca-Cola_600 Coca-Cola_600 400 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
12  6  6 0 0 DOVER MBNA_Platinum_400 MBNA_Platinum_400 400 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
13  6 13 0 0 MICHIGAN Kmart_400 Kmart_400 200 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
14  6 27 0 0 SEARSPT Save_Mart/Kragen_350 Save_Mart/Kragen_350 112 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
15  7 11 0 0 NWENGLND Jiffy_Lube_300 Jiffy_Lube_300 300 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
16  8  7 0 0 IMS Brickyard_400 Brickyard_400 160 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
17  8 15 0 0 WATGLEN Frontier_@_the_Glen Frontier_@_the_Glen 90 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
18  8 22 1 0 MICHIGAN Pepsi_400 Pepsi_400 200 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
19  8 28 0 1 NBRISTOL Goody's_Headache_Powders_500 Goody's_Headache_Powders_500 500 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
20  9  5 1 0 DARLINGT Pepsi_Southern_500 Pepsi_Southern_500 367 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
21  9 11 1 1 NRICHMON Exide_NASCAR_Select_Batteries_400 Exide_NASCAR_Select_Batteries_400 400 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
22  9 19 1 0 NWENGLND New_Hampshire_300 New_Hampshire_300 300 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
23  9 26 1 0 DOVER MBNA_Gold_400 MBNA_Gold_400 400 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
24 10  3 1 0 MRTNSVIL NAPA_AutoCare_500 NAPA_AutoCare_500 500 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
25 10 10 0 0 CHRLTTE UAW-GM_Quality_500 UAW-GM_Quality_500 334 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
26 10 17 1 0 TALADEGA Talladega_500 Talladega_500 188 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
27 10 24 1 0 ROCKING Pop_Secret_Microwave_Popcorn_400 Pop_Secret_Microwave_Popcorn_400 393 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
28 11  7 0 0 PHOENIX Dura_Lube_500k Dura_Lube_500k 312 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
29 11 14 0 0 HOMESTD Pennzoil_400 Pennzoil_400 267 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
30 11 21 1 0 ATLANTA NAPA_500 NAPA_500 325 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
31 12 99 0 0 XXXXXXXX


This came from a zip called 00calendar, file named WinstonCup00.cal:
Code:
SNAME NASCAR_Winston_Cup_2000
 0  2 14 0 0 DAYTONA Bud_Shoot_Out Bud_Shoot_Out 25 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 0  2 17 0 0 DAYTONA Twin_125's Twin_125's 50 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 0  2 17 0 0 DAYTONA Twin_125's Twin_125's 50 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 1  2 20 0 0 DAYTONA Daytona_500 Daytona_500 200 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 2  2 27 0 0 ROCKING Dura-Lube/Big_Kmart_400 Dura-Lube/Big_Kmart_400 393 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 3  3  5 0 0 LASVEGAS Las_Vegas_400 Las_Vegas_400 267 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 4  3 12 0 0 ATLANTA Cracker_Barrel_500 Cracker_Barrel_500 325 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 5  3 19 0 0 DARLINGT TranSouth_Financial_400 TranSouth_Financial_400 293 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 6  3 26 0 0 BRISTOL Food_City_500 Food_City_500 500 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 7  4  2 0 0 TEXAS PRIMESTAR_500 PRIMESTAR_500 334 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 8  4  9 0 0 MRTNSVIL Goody's_Body_Pain_500 Goody's_Body_Pain_500 500 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 9  4 25 0 0 TALADEGA Diehard_500 Diehard_500 188 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
10  4 30 0 0 CALIF California_500_Presented_by_NAPA California_500_Presented_by_NAPA 250 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
11  5  6 0 1 NRICHMON Richmond_400 Richmond_400 400 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
 0  5 14 0 1 NCHRLTTE The_Winston The_Winston 70 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
12  5 28 0 1 NCHRLTTE Coca-Cola_600 Coca-Cola_600 400 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
13  6  4 0 0 DOVER MBNA_Platinum_400 MBNA_Platinum_400 400 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
14  6 11 0 0 MICHIGAN Kmart_400 Kmart_400 200 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
15  6 18 0 0 POCONO Pocono_400 Pocono_400 200 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
16  6 25 0 0 SEARSPT Save_Mart/Kragen_350 Save_Mart/Kragen_350 112 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
17  7  1 0 1 NDAYTONA Pepsi_400 Pepsi_400 160 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
18  7  9 0 0 NWENGLND Jiffy_Lube_300 Jiffy_Lube_300 300 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
19  7 23 0 0 POCONO Pennsylvania_500 Pennsylvania_500 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
20  8  5 0 0 IMS Brickyard_400 Brickyard_400 160 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
21  8 13 0 0 WATGLEN Frontier_@_the_Glen Frontier_@_the_Glen 90 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
22  8 20 1 0 MICHIGAN Pepsi_400 Pepsi_400 200 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
23  8 26 0 1 NBRISTOL Goody's_Headache_Powders_500 Goody's_Headache_Powders_500 500 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
24  9  5 3 0 DARLINGT Pepsi_Southern_500 Pepsi_Southern_500 367 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
25  9  9 1 1 NRICHMON Exide_NASCAR_Select_Batteries_400 Exide_NASCAR_Select_Batteries_400 400 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
26  9 17 1 0 NWENGLND New_Hampshire_300 New_Hampshire_300 300 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
27  9 24 1 0 DOVER MBNA_Gold_400 MBNA_Gold_400 400 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
28 10  1 1 0 MRTNSVIL NAPA_AutoCare_500 NAPA_AutoCare_500 500 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
29 10  8 0 0 CHRLTTE UAW-GM_Quality_500 UAW-GM_Quality_500 334 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
30 10 15 1 0 TALADEGA Talladega_500 Talladega_500 188 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
31 10 22 1 0 ROCKING Pop_Secret_Microwave_Popcorn_400 Pop_Secret_Microwave_Popcorn_400 393 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
32 11  5 0 0 PHOENIX Dura_Lube_500k Dura_Lube_500k 312 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
33 11 12 0 0 HOMESTD Pennzoil_400 Pennzoil_400 267 event1.tga biglogo1.tga
34 11 19 1 0 ATLANTA NAPA_500 NAPA_500 325 event2.tga biglogo2.tga
35 12 99 0 0 XXXXXXXX

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:06 pm 
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Me Lord, many thanks for your efforts. But I seek add-on tracks, not NASCAR tracks. Another kind soul did provide me with quite a list to meet my needs. While not complete to my track list, it will greatly reduce the typing required.

For those who care:

Its been a long slow journey; sometimes I worked on the machines a few hours a day, sometimes an hour a week. I'd forgotten how manual it was to install stuff in Win98; not straight plug and play, for sure.

Its been a bit more expensive than I anticipated (looking at maybe $250 tops to get both up to speed), but I've now got them up and running, each on their own computer stands. Now I just need to figure out the connections to get them to talk to each other.

To that end, does anyone remember how to do IPX? Its something about null modem cables connected to serial/com ports, but you are limited to 9600 baud rates (i.e. early modem speeds), which I guess would be OK for 2 people.

Apparently, I can also do crossover ethernet cables (both machines have network cards). I think this is what I want to do.

I could connect them to the internet; a router is close by. But that would mean running cable across the room to the router when we wanted to play against each other. But then I could use a 3rd party internet server like Kali (yes, it still exists!!!) to race on. But I don't really need that.

Suggestions appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:30 pm 
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I hooked up two machines via a null modem cable so I could play GPL with my brother. This was back around 2000. I remember having to set up one computer as the server and the other as the client. That's about the extent my memory.

I've never used cross over network cables. I've used switches or routers. The switch was in the early 2000's as well. I have it stored in a box somewhere in the house.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:00 pm 
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Traveller,

Thanks for the feedback, old friend. Its great to see old names still here. :nana: Obviously, I walked away from these games quite a while ago as real life just got in the way of my "play time" as I climbed the "corporate ladder". Retirement is a wonderful thing; its a shame we spend 40 years of our adult life getting there.

Based on searches, it appears I can still get cross over cables; not sure about null modem cables. Even the mom-and-pop shops I've been visiting are shaking their heads at me when I ask for 12 inch IDE cables, etc. Switches and hubs may be hard to find as well, although I have not looked.

My goal is to get N3, NL, DTR(2?), and maybe Grand Prix Racing (maybe v2? .. I had v3 on my XP machine; not sure I ever loaded v4) running, as well as some space games like Descent and Star Wars Racing.

Geez, I loaded CART......... its max res was 640X480....... OMG it was ugly!! And yes, I know there is no reason to load SODA, SCGT, Hooters Cup, or any of those other games that threw everything to the CPU.

I have N2k3 and GPL on my XP machine (yes, my primary is still an XP tower that I built in 2007). I don't want to take GPL back to the W98 machines (I had it on my old one) because you have to make sure you have those special tree files that work in Glide.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:57 pm 
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Ethernet hub. That's what I used back in the day. Not a switch. I came across it today while looking for my digital multi-meter. I found it, too.

I'm planning on installing GPL next year on my Windows 10 machine for the twentieth anniversary of the release. Yes, I still have the original CD. I also have CD's and DVD's of third party GPL stuff over the years. It will be interesting to see if I can get it to work.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:31 pm 
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I see we've had a visitor........

After a few PEBCAK* issues while setting up the "network", I have the 2 computers talking to each other, and seeing shared folders, and seeing a "host" for online racing between them. Just used a cross over cable. Latency is 0.03. LOL

Now, I just need to start moving files (cars, tracks, etc) from the old established computer to the clean install one.


Traveller: as to GPL, I have several copies of the CD, a bunch of tracks and carsets, a TON of files created by Draftdancer to enhance cars (I just need to find them), and numerous applications (GEM, GPLaim, GPLglance, GPLSA, etc), on CD. I think the carset I settled on was a mid-range modification (jfcars67?); I liked it, and didn't go any higher (Steve Banks did a movie of the changes including tracks in the early 2000s - it was called Evolution. I have a hi-res AVI but I think its on youtube now). Its on our old nr2k3 tracks server: http://nr2k3tracks.com/hold/evolution.avi (this link won't open in Firefox for me, have to save as...)


If you need something, let me know.

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